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Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Sâm Noi 27, 2010 8:59 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
da, ai dreptate, acel difuzor are 1800W AES specificati insa pretul este prohibitiv la 700 de dolari... |
Autor: | Dan Nita aka DNA [ Dum Noi 28, 2010 1:19 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Bobină de 5,3 inch. Au făcut o bobină după magnetul disponibil pe piaţă. Chestia asta costă. Ice, până acum, eu nu am întâlnit vreun caz de difuzor produs de vreo firmă care să bată un difuzor echivalent de la Paudio. Sincer şi fără chestii de marketing. La orice difuzor care mi-a căzut în mână şi am avut timp să fac teste, indiferent de preţ, am putut să îi găsesc un echivalent la Paudio. Foarte rar am găsit vreun model de difuzor la care să nu am un echivalent. De exemplu, se tot vorbeşte de DH3, cum că are înalte şi că sună bine. De acord, sună ok, are înalte, dar un PreNeo 340 îl bate lejer, din orice punct de vedere, inclusv la muzicalitate, greutate, putere, rezistenţă la abuzuri, iar la preţ nu are rost să comparăm. Sunt de acord că majoritatea oamenilor sunt influenţaţi de ştaif, de brand, de poveştile nemuritoare, dar când vine vorba despre tehnologie, fără supărare, dar 18 Sound sunt sub PAudio. Sunt o firmă mult mai mică şi cu resurse limitate. Încearcă să compenseze prin marketing agresiv, aşa cum sunt obişnuiţi italienii, în general. Multă poleială şi prea puţin conţinut. Repet, mă bazez pe ceea ce văd cu ochii mei, nu pe spusele altora. De când Dynacord a început să bage 18 Sound în boxele lor, au început să-mi vină la service cu grămada. Din acest motiv, nu văd vreun motiv serios pentru care un difuzor de la 18 Sound ar surclasa omologul de la PAudio. Există un topic numit "Paudio vs. restul lumii". Cred că este mai vechi de un an. Nici până în ziua de astăzi nu a venit cineva să-mi spună că el are un difuzor cu nişte performanţe superioare produselor Paudio şi că este dispus să le testăm comparativ. Eu sunt în continuare deschis şi aştept propuneri. Problema este alta. Paudio are nişte produse pe care nicun alt fabricant nu le poate oferi. De exemplu, nu există pe piaţă niciun fabricant serios de difuzoare care să ofere un driver pe măsura BMII-D750/740, la un preţ asemănător. Este doar un exemplu. |
Autor: | P Victor [ Lun Noi 29, 2010 4:41 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
PreNeo 340 ( s ) va fi disponibil ? si daca da , cand si la ce pret ? Multumesc anticipat , Victor |
Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Vin Ian 07, 2011 1:50 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
cate ai nevoie? |
Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Vin Ian 07, 2011 1:51 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
poze reale cu noul SD18-1700EL care o sa va bucure |
Autor: | Dan Nita aka DNA [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 12:24 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Toate noutăţile pe care PAudio le va lansa peste câteva zile la NAMM au fost afişate pe site-ul www.paudiothailand.com |
Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 12:48 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Sa dam drumul la noutati: SD12-1000EL PDF: http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 000EL1.pdf Citat: The SD12-1000EL is a high output wide bandwidth transducer designed for low frequency response in two way designs and for high output mid bass. The 12 inch (305mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies. This design is optimized for both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD12-1000EL has been optimized for use in two and three way sound reinforcement system designs and may be used in either mid bass or low frequency applications. The operating bandwidth is 60Hz to 3000Hz. The SD12-1000EL employs a large 4 inch (101.6mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1000 watts of continuous power handling and a full 4000 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SD12-1000EL utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement for both low frequency and mid band response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD15-1000EL http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 700EL2.pdf Citat: The SD15-1700EL is a high output wide bandwidth transducer. The 15 inch (381mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies and is ideal for high level low frequency response in two and three way systems. This design is an excellent component for both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses high energy ferrite magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD15-1700EL has been optimized for use in two and three way sound reinforcement system designs. The operating bandwidth is 55Hz to 2000Hz. The SD15-1700EL employs a very large 4.5 inch (114.3mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1700 watts of continuous power handling and a full 6800 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SD15-1700EL utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced-Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response and high level output in multi-way system designs. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD15=1700N http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 1700N1.pdf Citat: The SD15-1700N is a high output wide bandwidth transducer. The 15 inch (381mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies and is ideal for high level low frequency and full range response. This design is optimized for both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD15-1700N has been optimized for use in two and three way sound reinforcement system designs. The operating bandwidth is 55Hz to 2000Hz. The SD15-1700N employs a large 4.5 inch (114.3mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1700 watts of continuous power handling and a full 6800 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SD15-1700N utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement for both low frequency and mid band response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD18-1700EL http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 700EL2.pdf Citat: The SD18-1700EL is a high output low frequency transducer. The 18 inch (457mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at very low frequencies and is ideal for high level deep bass and sub woofer response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The operating range is 30Hz to 200Hz. The transducer uses high energy ferrite magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD18-1700EL employs a very large 4.5 inch (114.3mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1700 watts of continuous power handling and a full 6800 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. It is recommended that the transducer be loaded into a properly designed vented enclosure and that active high order high pass filtering be employed if extremely high power levels are expected at low frequencies. The SD18-1700EL utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. The cone has been treated with a conformal coating designed to provide additional mechanical damping and moisture resistance. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD18-1700N http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 1700N1.pdf Citat: The SD18-1700N is an very high output low frequency transducer. The 18 inch (457mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at very low frequencies and is ideal for high level deep bass and sub woofer response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The operating range is 30Hz to 200Hz. The transducer uses high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD18-1700N employs a large 4.5 inch(114.3mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1700 watts of continuous power handling and a full 6800 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. It is recommended that the transducer be loaded into a properly designed vented enclosure and suitable active high pass filtering be employed if extremely high power levels are expected at low frequencies. The SD18-1700N utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. The cone has been treated with a conformal coating designed to provide additional mechanical damping and moisture resistance. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity.
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Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 12:55 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
SD21-1800EL http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 800EL1.pdf Citat: The SD21-1800EL is a high output low frequency transducer. The 21 inch (533mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at very low frequencies and is ideal for high level deep bass and sub woofer response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The very large radiating area and high linear displacement insure extremely high acoustic power radiation at very low frequencies. The operating range is 30Hz to 200Hz. The transducer uses high energy ferrite magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD21-1800EL employs a very large 5 inch (127mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1800 watts of continuous power handling and a full 7200 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. It is recommended that the transducer be loaded into a properly designed vented enclosure and that active high pass filtering be employed if extremely high low frequency power input will be used. The SD21-1800EL utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. The cone has been treated with a conformal coating designed to provide additional mechanical damping and moisture resistance. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD21-1800N http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 1800N1.pdf Citat: The SD21-1800N is an ultra high output low frequency transducer. The 21 inch (533mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at very low frequencies and is ideal for high level deep bass and sub woofer response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The 21 inch piston area will produce extremely high acoustic output power. The operating range is 30Hz to 200Hz. The transducer uses high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD21-1800N employs a very large 5 inch (127mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 1800 watts of continuous power handling and a full 7200 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. It is recommended that the transducer be loaded into a properly tuned vented enclosure for maximum power handling. The SD21-1800N utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. A high order (4th) high pass filter is recommended for use with extremely high power low frequency signals. This external active high pass filter should be tuned to just below the enclosure tuning frequency. The cone has been treated with a conformal coating designed to provide additional mechanical damping and moisture resistance. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SD21-2000N - Monstrul absolut !!! = 2000W AES si bobina de 6" http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 2000N2.pdf Citat: The SD21-2000N is an ultra high output low frequency transducer. The 21 inch (533mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure evels at very low frequencies and is ideal for high level deep bass and sub woofer response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The combination of a large radiating area and high linear displacement will generate substantial acoustic power. The operating range is 30Hz to 200Hz. The transducer uses high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SD21-2000N employs an extremely large 6 inch (152mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 2000 watts of continuous power handling and a full 8000 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. It is recommended that the transducer be loaded into a properly designed vented enclosure. The SD21-2000N utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is an inside/outside geometry with P Audios square wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a very large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. System linearity is achieved by employing magnetic flux demodulation devices in the structure to increase fidelity and sonic accuracy. The system suspension has been designed specifically for high linear displacement and extended low frequency response. The double spider design insures very high displacement and linear response while maintaining excellent control. For additional mechanical power handling it is recommended that a high order high pass filter be used and tuned immediately below the enclosure tuning frequency. The cone has been treated with a conformal coating designed to provide additional mechanical damping and moisture resistance. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity.
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Autor: | Mircea Bartic [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 1:01 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
SN15-350B http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 5-350B.pdf Citat: The P Audio SN15-350B is a high performance wide bandwidth transducer. The SN15-350B is an upgraded design that features many of P Audios new technologies and performance upgrades. The 15 inch (381mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies and is ideal for high level response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses very high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SN15-350B has been optimized for use in two way or three way sound reinforcement systems and has an operating range of 55Hz to 2000Hz. The SN15-350B features a large 3 inch (76.2mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 350 watts of continuous power handling and a full 1400 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SN15-350B utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is a bobbin wound geometry with P Audios inside/outside wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SN15-500B http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 5-500B.pdf Citat: The P Audio SN15-500B is a high performance wide bandwidth transducer. The SN15-500B is an upgraded design that features many of P Audios new technologies and performance upgrades. The 15 inch (381mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies and is ideal for high level response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses very high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SN15-500B has been optimized for use in two way or three way sound reinforcement systems and has an operating range of 55Hz to 2000Hz. The SN15-500B features a large 3.28 inch (83.3mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 600 watts of continuous power handling and a full 2400 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SN15-500B utilizes P Audios Auto Balanced Cooling (ABC) technology to not only improve transducer power handling and reliability but to also increase power compression performance by carefully balancing and directing airflow to critical areas. The voice coil design is a bobbin wound geometry with P Audios inside/outside wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a large crosssectional area for superior cooling. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity. SN15-500CX http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/produ ... 500CX1.pdf Citat: The P Audio SN15-500CX is a high performance coaxial transducer. The SN15-500CX is an upgraded design that features many of P Audios new technologies and performance upgrades. The low frequency section utilizes a large diameter voice coil design while the high frequency section employs a medium format titanium diaphragm assembly. The 15 inch (381mm) diameter piston will produce extremely high sound pressure levels at both low and mid band frequencies and is ideal for high level response in both live sound and recorded music venues. The transducer uses very high energy neodymium magnetics to achieve a very high acoustic output to weight ratio. The SN15-500CX has been optimized for use in two way or three way sound reinforcement systems and has an operating range of 55Hz to 20000Hz. The SN15-500CX features a large 3.28 inch (83.5mm) diameter voice coil that provides an AES rated 600 watts of continuous power handling and a full 2400 watts of peak rated power handling when sufficient amplifier headroom is available. The SN15-500CX employs P Audios under damper venting to control turbulent air flow. The voice coil design is a bobbin wound geometry with P Audios inside/outside wire technology to improve conversion efficiency and provide a large cross-sectional area for superior cooling. The high frequency section is a close spaced titanium diaphragm assembly. The diaphragm is a 2.5 inch (63mm) diaphragm that provides excellent high frequency response and superior power handling and durability. The horn loading is provided via a thru pole piece configuration that uses the low frequency cone as part of the final horn flare. The overall high frequency design provides very high sensitivity. The transducer chassis is a die cast aluminum design that insures a very high degree of structural integrity.
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Autor: | Dan Nita aka DNA [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 1:21 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
SD21-2000N Ăsta e difuzor de hornuri Un bandpass horn, cu două difuri de SD21-2000N ar cântări cam 80-85Kg. Not bad ! |
Autor: | Dan Nita aka DNA [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 1:46 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Apropo, nu sunt toate noutăţile ce vor fi lansate în 2011. Anul acesta, se pare că Paudio va fi cea mai prolifică firmă în ceea ce priveşte lansarea de noile produse. Urmează : SN3-30N SN6-100N SN6-150CX SN6-150MB SN6-200MB SN6-200N SN8-200N SN8-250CX SN8-250N SN10-300MB SN12-350B SN12-500B SN12-500CX 15BM-300B V2 15BM-500B V2 C15-400B V2 C15-600EL V2 C18-600LF NEW C18-650EL NEW E8-150S V2 E10-150S V2 E10-200S V2 E12-200S V2 E12-300S V2 E15-200S V2 E15-300S V2 E18-400S V2 IMF-15W V2 .... IMF-18B V2 IMF-18W V2 P150/2226 V2 P180/2242 V2 P12N V2 P15N V2 P18N V2 După cum se observă, există mai multe produse cu indicative mai vechi. Acestea sunt de fapt nişte produse noi, dar care au păstrat numele cunoscute utilizatorilor. De exemplu, în SUA se vând în prostie P150/2226 şi P180/2242, pentru că piaţa le cere ca înlocuitor pentru modelel similare JBL. În ţările mai sărace, haşpephaouăr rulez în postura de difuzor destinat utilizărilor generale, aşă că nu are rost să se schimbe denumirea. Să vedem ce va fi dpdv tehnic, pentru că nu am aflat încă detaliile tehnice. Nu ştiu nici cum o să arate, dar nu cred că vor fi mari deosebiri în ceea ce priveşte aspectul. Cert este doar că preţul va fi cam tot pe acolo, posibil cu vreo câteva procente mai mare faţă de preţul actual. Şi cu voia domniilor vostre şi un difuzor mai special, făcut la cererea subsemantului, care va fi comercializat sub denumirea de PAudio G12-200TC/16ohm. Este un dif de bandă largă, are 200w şi va putea fi folosit în banda 50Hz - 12khz. Utilizarea optimă ar fi în combinaţie cu un tweeter ieftin D26SPN-16ohm, punctul de filtrare fiind pe la 8-9Khz. Incinta astfel obţinută este deosebit de fiabilă şi are marele avantaj că se poate combina în număr fără de număr, pe o singură staţie. Un Ecler DPA2000 ar duce 16 astfel de boxe, ceea ce ar fi parfum pentru discoteci înghesuite, băgate prin beciuri, ori pe terase mari, unde eşti nevoit să le împrăştii, iar bugetul este limitat. |
Autor: | user eliminat [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 6:44 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Wow super, apar difuri vechi si laudate ca 15w, c15 400b, c15 600el si altele. Frumos. Sper ca se importa si ceva din alea |
Autor: | Darius Morosan [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 9:21 am ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Super din ce vad pe acolo. Seria aia SN cred ca e misto. Speram ca pretul sa fie unul mic de tot |
Autor: | Foca_Dacian [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 12:42 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
Foarte tare treaba cu seriile V2 ,in special Challenger (preferata mea) P.S. SD21-2000N are "motor V8" |
Autor: | Stefan Luchian [ Lun Ian 10, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
Subiectul mesajului: | Re: Lansare noua serie SD de la P-audio - Noi tehnologii ! |
viitorul chiar ca suna ... bine |
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